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This introduction has given me some details about what to expect in this course, i look forward to more.
Thank you Sogo! We will have a new Reader for every course-week – there is much more interesting content to come!
Sogo eyah temi ☺
Good to have you here…. Look forward to networking and working together
Thanks for the introductions,it is very explicit and helpful.looking forward to more scripts in this whole exercise
I was inspired by the knowledge I will get from the instructor through the introduction.
Great Introduction. Looks like we are going to have an exciting time with this initiative.
Very good read, I already learned a lot and my mind is starting to draw connections between the food-energy nexus and my area of work, inclusive business. Looking forward to the next sessions.
Great as an agriculture Engineer I start to discover my contribution in the developing world characterized by food insecurity.
The topic is given my road map on how to address these problem in my communities
Very good initiative. Look forward to learning lots of new things and coming up with great solutions for agriculture in Nigeria
Great information and lots learned just from the introduction. Looking forward to the Tech. setion!!!
indeed the introduction has given me enough light about the issues to be handled in this course. i think this is the right time to have it. thanks to maagement.
This is all very appropriate for my line of work. I am currently trying to find a way to power a centre pivot irrigation system and a drying warehouse for vegetable produce using solar electricity and biomass. I have realized that a change has to be made and it must be now.
Great Intro! I like how the focus is not only on having to produce more but trying to waste less… better efficiency in our value chains is crucial in solving many of the problems in current agricultural model.
The introduction alone is filled with lots of quality information. Looking forward to the coming weeks
I’m unable to access the Course Script for the week. Am I doing something wrong? Was able to view the Introduction Videos though.
Did you click “mark complete” after watching the videos? This will open up access to the next section of Week 1 materials.
thanks for introduction it very excited
Thanks for this great information
The link isn’t working…
pls mark done after each step to make next step available
I’m about to head to bed because I have a 5am alarm that gets me up and out to my farm job. I’m currently at the end of page 6 of this reading. I thoroughly enjoyed the ‘Close Up’ box on this page and will leave some thoughts about it below:
The first bullet: “More food must be produced sustainably…”
Some images that immediately come to mind are rooftop gardens, the spread of information, and the growth of food on a small scale. Small as in, families growing their own food, or communal grow spaces that support a certain amount of folks. To understand the bigger picture of the Nexus, one must learn from the smaller scale first.
The second bullet: “Demand…”
I immediately think of eating locally and seasonally. That would mean for me here in the Northeast US, no avocadoes, lemons, or mangoes. Ever. I love all of these things, but the amount of resources it takes to grow, then to transport, are not justifiable.
However, let me be honest…I currently have all 3 in my house.
The third bullet: “Waste…”
This is such a HUGE concern of mine. You see, our family receives SNAP Benefits. I’m also on the Board for an NPO who hosts food drives for folks who are doing far worse than I.
On-farm “waste” can at least be composted or fed to animals. The waste that perturbs me the most is that of grocery stores, institutions, and common households. For still-good foods to be trashed with no regards to folks who could benefit from it really pushes me over the edge.
For example, a couple of years ago while attending my local community college, there was an event happening where there was buffet-style food. At the time, I still ate meat so the chicken dish looked divine. I saw said chicken dish after the event was over. There was still ~2/3 of a tray left. I had asked the chef for some leftovers and he denied me. When I asked “why?” I understood his answer, but must definitely did not agree with it.
He said that if he were to give out the food and someone got sick, that person could potentially sue. He and I chatted a bit about the broken food system and how some establishments like restaurants and institutions would rather waste by bleaching then get sued by the homeless.
I get the sueing part, but not the waste part.
Then there are grocery stores that leave their dumpsters unlocked on purpose and don’t have compactors so that hungry folks can dumpster dive at their leisure. I would be lying if I said I’ve never eaten food from a dumpster.
The fourth bullet: “The political…”
While I agree with this point, I’m also nervous. To get a group of people to agree on such an important issue, then to put it into motion, is no easy feat and could take a lot time. As I mentioned earlier, time is not something we have a lot of.
I’m also nervous at what this might look like. Would our personal food stuffs be rationed? I mean, on one hand, the folks who currently eat nothing would then be eating something and the folks who overindulge would be forced to eat less (cure for obesity?). I wonder if the political aspect of this would put too much power into the hands of some. I feel like now this is getting into a potentially strong, opinionated, off-topic discussion.
See you tomorrow after I’ve done some more reading.
Hi Sarah! I took out time to read all you’ve said… You’re very smart and real! I totally loved it. You should have a blog… If you already do, please, send me the address.
I’m from Nigeria and I’m not one of those Nigerian princes
Awe, thanks Richard! I don’t have a blog currently, but I have had thoughts about it. I don’t really have the time at the moment between juggling my job, my toddler, my business, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to read this post as it ended up being longer than I had expected.
I guess it’s not clear about the readings. I thought this link will bring the reading out but there is nothing. I can see there’s a problem with many of us.
Hi Marcos! To find the reading material you have to go the “introduction” of Week 1. On the bottom of the page you have to click on the button “mark complete” to get to the next page (videos). There again, you have to click “mark complete” to get to the next page – the reader. Please let us know if you still have problems accessing the reading material! Enjoy
To the under developed countries, farming in large scale is quiet difficult, we have to focus on micro level so that the ground level will get production benefit with the use of new renewable technology. Still people irrigate their land with the diesel pump which some how contribute to green house gas. Hope in the end of this course, we come to know the up-scaling of the agriculture with best suited technology.
Agriculture production scenario is very different in developing countries as compared to developed countries. In countries like India pre-harvest losses and inefficiencies are evident but the processes are much more sustainable than compared to production processes in place in most of the developed countries. On the other hand developed countries has more sophisticated production system and technology but are highly energy intensive and unsustainable.
Today in urban sector everybody is talking about decentralization in order to bring sustainability and efficiency. If we take example for India, decentralization is already prevalent and all is required is to back the existing vernacular systems with renewable energy and organic scientific ways of increasing production.
Chapter A 1.3 : It is mentioned that “sustainability in the sector can be achieved either by energy efficiency measures or through the application of renewable energy” but in my opinion as realized by urban sector both energy efficiency and renewable energy should be done simultaneously. It is now inevitable for all sectors to improve efficiency while shifting towards renewable energy.
Hello Kapoor, thanks for your input! We definitely agree with you, both energy efficiency should be improved and renewable energy solutions should be supported – best case scenario. The sentence just wants to stress that also one of the two is a good start. Further, in some cases only one of the two options makes sense – in the next weeks of this course more information on e.g. life cycle assessment and tools for investment planning will be introduced. They will help to make decisions on whether to invest in energy efficiency measures or renewable energy or to do both.
Mouth watering introduction
Thanks for the awareness
It is not only energy and water are the main challenges for future food production. Land availability and suitability should not be overlooked.
That is true. Most of the farmlands that are being used by today’s farmers in developing countries are worn and not well kept. Therefore they will not be suitable for farming in the near future. Crop rotation and other methods to protect soil nutrients and the environment are not initiated in most communities.
Urban expansion plays another key role in the availability of farmland like you mentioned. The neighborhood I live in today, for example, used to belong to farmers. Now that the city is expanding, farmers are selling their land and starting small businesses in the city. This poses a serious threat and must be looked at in parallel.
This makes me sad…the suburbanization of farmland. Folks are losing their roots in a time when it’s more important for us to get back to our roots. Farmers who sell their land, and everyone for that matter, can’t eat money. Their small business and what was gained by the sale of their farmland won’t suffice when/if (for lack of a better term) shit hits the fan. It’s the farmers, the growers, the producers, the creators that will strive and survive.
Thank you for the great introduction to the course. I am excited to continue to learn more about the topic, and I look forward to thinking about how to make alternative energy sources financially attractive in the face of low oil prices.
good video and interaction of ideas on powering agriculture
very educative ,am still reading through
On a small scale, Figure 2 on page 7 (Agricultural value chain) can wrap back around from end-user to inputs. Humanure, if done properly, is a great way to put nutrients back into the soil. Small, undeveloped/developing communities could put this method into play, which could also help sanitation and sickness issues.
I am very glad to learn about the linkage between renewable energy, food production and climate change prevention and mitigation ! Nice enought
The Close-Up on pg. 11 regarding ‘The Carbon Footprint’ always makes me think of transportation first and foremost. Let’s use the example of bell peppers. Organic yellow or red are more expensive, yet more flavorful and more nutritious than organic green bell peppers. I’ll look at the tag on all three colors and decide which to purchase based on distance travelled. If the yellow is from Israel and the green is from California, then that’s a no brainer for me. Green bell pepper it is.
When seasonally available, I’ll purchase local bell peppers. While I prefer everything in my diet to be organic, sometimes I can’t make that happen. If there’s an organic pepper at the grocery story from California, or a conventional pepper at my local farmer’s market, I’ll choose the locally grown conventional pepper. Now, if there’s organic pepper at the market then, obviously, that’s my first choice.
Local doesn’t always mean organic and vice versa.
This issue of nutrition and protection of the environment is very complex. It takes policy makers on the international and local level to be convinced and have passion for sustainable agriculture and environment as whole. I think of where I come from in the developing world where at the moment there is shortage of water which means there is also shortage of power in industries and households and people have reverted to cutting a lot of trees to use as energy. Whenever I go to my homeland, I always find that we are loosing natural resources at a faster rate. Is it possible to target policy makers, educators, civil societies, up to the grassroots? Women can be great drivers of change.
Where do you come from?
I agree that achieving success in this space will involve translating these issues and solutions for different role players and audiences. We cannot always rely on policy makers / government. I hope during this course we learn how to engage, educate and influence people at various levels.
just talk, do what you can , you are the state
Section 2.3 which starts on pg. 12 has got me thinking: “…carbon dioxide emissions from crop and livestock production increased…” The first thing that came to mind was factory farms here in the US. These MASSIVELY huge feedlots that contain hundreds, if not thousands, of animals for months at a time in order to “finish” them before they become beef, create LOTS of methane gas. If their poop was utilized for electricity, the feedlot owner’s energy use would go down dramatically. The owner would need several anaerobic digesters for all of the poop. How do I know? I’ve seen it first hand. I visited a dairy farm that used a digester to create electricity to heat up their GIANT hot water tanks that were needed to clean and sterilize the milking areas.
Also, if folks stopped eating meat one day a week, just one, the amount of animals needed to support our greedy gullets would dramatically decrease.
I have turned into a vegetarian since last six months. But it’s not possible to force or change the eating habit of someone else. One should start the initiative on his/her own.
What I have found is that making your own decisions and letting others decide for themselves is best. I have been a vegan for 7+ years, but don’t make judgments about others’ eating choices and only speak about being vegan when asked directly. And, in those moments, instead of “preaching vegan,” I have encouraged people to consider eating less meat – not necessarily to stop entirely (as I think this will be more practical.) As a result, so many people in my life have decreased the meat they eat – whether switching to a vegetarian diet, or having many more meatless meals… this will make the biggest difference, and I think people are starting to realize that.
What are your techniques in encouraging folks to eat less meat?
I agree with you that it’s not possible to force someone to change. It is possible, however, to provide educational resources so that when that initiative starts, they have somewhere to turn.
I’ve learn so much so far. i now understand the agriculture processes and value chain. Its so sad that developing countries continue to waste valuable resources by using outdated technologies hence contributing to the destruction to our precious plant….
We need to start adapting new and energy efficient ways to grow and process agricultural products both in rural and urban areas.I think this can be done by joining forces with farmers, civil
society, private sector and government .
Government in developing countries need to do more in helping farmers and the entire agri value chain parties become more aware of the situation- of how agriculture affect the environment when the wrong method/technique/process is used and at the same time provide solution to help solve this problem. For instance have awareness/ educational programmes, provide financial assistance to help purchase energy efficient equipment,encourage the use of environmentally safe farming practices,have renewable energy policy and so forth.
Yes, this is true, but it’s not just developing countries that are wasting valuable resources. The developed world wastes plenty, but often in different ways. For example, developing nations tend to have less efficient methods of production, harvest, and storage/transportation, which causes a great waste of resources. However, developed nations tend to lose a great deal of food in the consumption phase, which also wastes all of the resources used to produce said food item. Certainly, the developing nations need increased technology and financial assistance for equipment, etc., but the developed nations need to figure out ways to stop wasting so much food (better system for expiration dates, smaller portion sizes, eating a great deal more local food, etc.)
I’ve learn so much so far. i now understand the agriculture processes and value chain. Its so sad that developing countries continue to waste valuable resources by using outdated technologies hence contributing to the destruction to our precious planet.
I have completed Introductory part but i have not seen the quiz, how do i go for the quiz
you can find the Quiz on the very bottom of the page for Week 1.
However, in order to be able to start the Quiz you will have to mark the following sections of Week 1 as complete:
- Introduction | Week 1
- Videos | Week 1
- Reader 1 | Week 1
- Additional Material | Week 1
This is how you can mark a section as complete: On the bottom of each page you have to click on the button “mark complete”. You will have to repeat this for all the sections named above. Please let us know if problem persists. Enjoy!
I really like this Introduction part of the course that gives me a full insight of the course content. Looking forward to learn more and pass the exam to get my certificate. But also sharing experiences with learnt people around the world. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.
Reading this introduction I found it very interesting about all the topics that are discussed. I hope this quality of work does not decrease!
Great introduction and wonderful comments from colleagues. Highly impressed!
I come from the academic background of Mechanical Engineering currently working in renewable energy field in Nepal. I got some good insights about the relationship between the current agricultural production in the world and its demand, and how the demand is going to rise in the future. I also came to know the direct and indirect energy consumption by the food and agriculture sector in the world and how this sector is also responsible for relatively large amount of GHG emissions which I was earlier ignorant of. I am looking forward to learn more about the ways to integrate the renewable energy technologies and energy efficiency options in the agriculture field to face the big challenges in this area.
What a useful script? Am constructing a low cost cold room (eco-cold storage) for storing fresh fruits and vegetables in Uganda. It’s true in my country most of these health food are wasted before reaching the consumers due to poor storage facilities. I addition, the manual production work done by the small holder farmers is never rewarded since 35% of the produce is wasted.
Comment…Hadijah, this is interesting how you are setting up an eco-storage facility! Same in Kenya too that products as Fruits, Veges and other perishables end up on the damp-site due to little information available to the farmers/local investors regarding pro-agric renewables. I look forward to visiting your facility one day.
The introduction is very explicit and easy to understand. Working in the domain of agriculture, relationship between production, world demand and energy consumption was quite interesting and i hope to gain more as we progress in the course.
It is great being here learning so much. I am going through the first reading material and I can see the enormous challenge we have to face to meet the food and energy needs with time. Looking at Close up 1, I note that while commercial fertilizers may assist to replenish nutrients in the soil, most fertilizers especially in developing countries like Kenya, have only few mineral nutrients. It is therefore almost impossible to completely restore soil nutrients using commercial fertilizers. It is therefore essential to prioritize prevention of soil loss within an integrated soil fertility management framework.
Finally through with Reading. What an informative introduction. I can see a clear picture of the problem that the course will address. I can see what and how I will learn. I can also see opportunities for dealing with the challenge. I guess at the end we can say: Yes we can!! Looking forward to more. Meanwhile, I will keep reading through and through.
Comment……and, John, this facinates me too. Soil fertility should also be reinforced by emphasis on organic fertilizers, don’t you think so? If only the biogas sector had picked up in Kenya as it is in other countries like Germany…..this would generate a good amount of organic fertilizer from biodigester residues – I’m convinced, don’t you? Interestingly this technology also goes a long way in addressing the capture of one of the GHG’s responsible for climate change.
Can’t believe that rice really contributes to the release of GHG. We consume a lot lot of rice in Africa. What can be done about this?
What are you curious about when you say “What can be done about this?” Are you wondering how to cut down on rice consumption or how to lower its GHG emissions or perhaps both?
Dear Richard! Thanks for your input. With rice, as well as with other agricultural commodities, the GHG emissions depend significantly on the exact steps and processes in the value chain. The rice value chain varies with processing scale (on-farm or processing plant) and different end-use markets. GHG emissions occur at the production and processing stages but also during the packaging operation.
What can be done?
Energy efficiency improvements can often be achieved at each step of the chain that are often cost effective. Methane emissions from rice production can be reduced by using water management practices such as cultivating aerobic rice and irrigating periodically during the growing season to reduce water use when rice is not grown, and shorten the duration of continuous flooding. Further, the system of rice intensification is likely to reduce CH4 emissions by reducing the amount of flood irrigation.
For more information, follow the next week of this course, e.g. on energy efficiency in week 4, and also have a look at chapter 4 of this study.
Starting today you have the opportunity to post questions like this in the Community Forum! Check it out.
Just finished Reader. Now better understand how vital the interdependenby between energy and food production is. Usually one considers either energy or food production. Here, it is both. And that’s the way to go.
Informative and right to the point article, thank you. We seem to be sitting on a time bomb as we are stuck land area wise, we are depleting the productive land whilst polluting our environment…. I sincerely hope we can share ideas on how best we can slow down/stop or better still reverse this massive slide…
It’s very nice to meet such various participant, i hope to keep a solid relationship with all my colleagues
the course introduce gives us an idea to the major topics
about additional information on course material i invite you to read the related topic on bioenergy and Bioenergy and water nexus published by unep which i brought my contribution
I hope to have fruitfull exchange with participant during the course training
This course is really interesting and i am sure it will help me choose appropriate energy source for my job (irrigation engineer).
I appreciate the pros and cons discussed in Unit 3.1 starting on page 15. With regards to Indirect Energy, and my strong disdain towards nitrogen fertilizers, can’t farms just plant more legumes and practice crop rotation? This would help the soil while simultaneously creating a food source.
A good read, I now have a better understanding of the energy food water nexus. Looking forward to learning more! Thanks
The introductory component of the course is an eye opener to the issue of energy in our local food processing technology. The energy usage in some of these technologies seem to be on the high side without conservation and a lot of carbon i also generated along the line.
The additional reading materials will also be useful for further knowledge.
As I read through the introductory bit, the nexus is really tying in indeed. Question is: what relevant models should we adopt to enable affordability of various renewables to small scale farmers? Schumacher said “small is beautiful” so maybe we should investigate various business models to identify which best suits deployment of small renewables to such farmers? The models may be bound to cultural practices varying from region to region. I propose then regional forums may be a good idea to work on various deployment models which attract investors.
Unit A2 Section 2.1 Paragraph 3 (Pg. 10): “…adaptation measures such as new technologies and the cultivation of new crops.”
This sentence makes me nervous and makes me wonder if GMO’s are on the horizon. This approach is not sustainable at all.
I’d love to discuss this more with folks…
In response to the ‘Close-Up’ on page 18 regarding Kenya’s Dairy Farms, I’m glad SunDanver is helping out their electrical refrigeration situation.
However, my first thought was “800,000+ dairy farms?! WHY SO MANY?!” Why are there so many dairy farms in Kenya, where is the milk going, and how does it get there? If farmers are losing money because “up to 30 percent of [milk] may spoil,” why not just cut down on herd size? Less animals = less loss = more profit.
Also, if there are that many dairy farms, where is the poop going and what are the cows being fed? From first glance, with no further research done on my part, this whole system seems a bit unsustainable.
Is anyone able to enlighten me on this?
Interesting information. I just want to add something:
I don´t know if it will be treated within the next weeks but with regard to the value chain I (personally) think it is important to mention “Producer Organizations/Cooperatives” because some parts of a value chain might become easier to manage in this way.
These kinds of voluntary and collective organizations are (or can be if well coordinated) really supportive for small-scale farmers in DCs. Often there are various functions (e.g. supplying input material, providing production/processing equipment or even marketing services etc.) which are conducted within such a group in order to support the members and their activities.
I´m just going to leave this here (in case someone is interested in). : )
In terms of Clean Energy input in Agricultural production, which of the Agricultural system are will focusing on- Conventional Agriculture of Organic Agriculture?
Interesting Informations. In fact, I can see now how much the food production topic is very sensitive. As a Phd student I’ve always been interested on the importance of energy sector and renewable energies, but I never thought in it’s relation to food production and how much it’s important.
‘How can we feed more people, in a better
way, with improved access to modern energy, yet without consuming more water and soil, or generating more
greenhouse gas emissions?’ (Altenburg, 2014).”
This question indeed is pivotal to the whole issue. Though I agree that we have to be energy smart in agriculture, the issue goes beyond just energy consumption. We have to start looking at actual propagation and agricultural methodologies such as hydroponics, aquaponics and other intensive forms of production. These uses less land space but with much higher yields, and some systems boasts of 90% less water usage, and less fertiliser use than conventional farming. The challenge is that they require more capital to start up. So part of the challenge is to develop more affordable techniques. I would love to hear ideas out there. Anyone?
A very detailed reportage data! The issues affecting the small holder farmer are still far from a fallacy. From the primary production of the product, transport, storage and processing. While in the rural areas in Uganda is dominant with middle men who pay a low price for the product and still leaves the village farmer with no extra financing for the product.
Value Chain can be championed when all institutions involved adopt policy on Agriculture that affects the common person in rural villages. For they lack the financial stability and credit of product management .
i’m looking forward for the next script. The introduction very interesting and helpful. And also give me an idea to do something useful for the people around me.
cette introduction est très intéressante. Nous allons apprendre énormément avec ce MOOC sur des sources d’énergies propres qui peuvent être utiliser en agriculture moins consommatrice d’eau. Je suis impatient de découvrir les prochaines unités.
When I was reading this document, I thought about the future of my country Uganda. I only wish our legislators would read such a document in our parliament.
I am already exposed to other important and related issues to this MOOC. thanks for this opportunity to participate.
The document is a relevant reference document to understand the connection between energy and the entire agricultural value chain.
RECAP are also useful and held to see whether one has understood the various sections in the document
Hi everyone, I am in the waste to energy portfolio. We are turning all waste, including agricultural waste into electrical power..including sugarcane trash, which is agric waste. Which of the teams can I join?
WE CAN USE WVO TO PRODUCE BIO OIL THAT CAN BE USED TO RUN OUR FARM MACHINERY…FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!
Introduction has given me the insight of what to expect.
Yes, networking is essential for learning innovation and ideas for enhancing food security from the different parts of world. I felt this is a right options for getting into largest agriculture technology network
It is an awesome experience!
Thanks for the course introduction. Looking forward to have more details in week 2
Fantastic hand out! It highlighted the intricacies in population growth vis-a-vis measures to be taken to provide for the strategic food need of future generation, using environmental friendly approach; which is at the same time sustainable, considering the role of energy in agricultural value chain.
Mind boggling treatise! It highlighted the intricacies in population growth vis-a-vis measures to be taken to provide for the strategic food need of future generation, using environmental friendly approach; which is at the same time sustainable, considering the role of energy in agricultural value chain.
its beneficial and i look for
ward for more
Who makes more losses, the developed or developing countries? Whose losses are wasted? Do we have beneficial and non-beneficial wastage?
I have been blown away by the numbers on the losses along the agricultural food chain in developing countries. Over have of the produce sometimes doesn’t get to the market.
Interesting! Thanks for the course introduction. looking forward to have more deteils in the next weeks.
Great intro. Need to get started on the course work!
Its been an eye-opening ride so far. I’m motivated to want to be a part of the solution to the challenges facing agriculture, and other sectors of the economy, in Nigeria.
Great introduction!!!! To put energy and agriculture to work together and efficiently first in small scale is a big task, to make people and governments in under developed countries understand this is an even harder task. Looking forward to continue learning, spread the word and make a change in a big scale.
Great introduction. i am currently working on renewable energy technologies and believe this course will enhance my skills. I have worked with GIZ in some biogas projects in Kenya and currently working on Solar projects in another country. Looking forward to an insightful sessions.
Thanks so much for the introduction. It has given me much insight to he course
This is a highly resourceful introduction to this course. Being entangled in this and field work affords one the opportunity of really seeing the nexus, especially in engaging rice farmers and rice processors in the South East region of Nigeria
this is a fantastic introduction, giving me reasons to set aside time to participate in this exciting massive MOOC course
This is an excellent to connect global food challenge to global climate challenge and seek a mutual solution in the such that resolving one challenge (climate change) by mitigation or adaptation, helps to clear the challenge posed by the other (food)
As an Agricultural Engineer, Energy Technologist and Teacher working in the public sector, course material materials is handy in disseminating key innovations that affect agriculture, energy and sustainable development. However, content on Agricultural waste management and Environmental Impact Assessment/Audit should also have been addressed as these are key in increasing energy efficiency and improving Agricultural productivity. Otherwise course is captivating!
Just got to know of this course and I am really impressed with the intro… hope to get more from the rest of the course modules
Is there anyway I can delete this and repost as a new thread?
unfortunately you can not delete your post. But I am happy to that for you.
Let me know if you want me to take any action.
I’d love for my post “Unit A2…” to be it’s own new thread vs being a reply to the one above it. Can you please make that happen, which would subsequently delete all of the latter responses between you and I as well?
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